1 00:00:01,125 --> 00:00:03,291 {\an8}TRAVIS: {\an8}There is a bunch of energy, 2 00:00:03,333 --> 00:00:05,417 {\an8}and the source could be {\an8}under Skinwalker Ranch. 3 00:00:05,458 --> 00:00:07,875 I'd like to know what's in this thing. 4 00:00:07,917 --> 00:00:10,417 -Don't lift it up. -TRAVIS: Mine's beeping. 5 00:00:10,458 --> 00:00:13,500 {\an5}-That's pretty high. -We were just exposed to ionizing radiation. 6 00:00:13,542 --> 00:00:16,959 {\an5}TAYLOR: {\an5}We need to do ground-penetrating radar to see what's down there. 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,834 This looks like there's {\an1}something a thousand feet long. 8 00:00:19,875 --> 00:00:21,667 We got to dig there. 9 00:00:21,709 --> 00:00:23,959 {\an1}Well, you're gonna have to get {\an1}Brandon to sign off on that. 10 00:00:24,375 --> 00:00:25,834 - I don't think we have any choice... 11 00:00:25,875 --> 00:00:26,542 ...but to find out... 12 00:00:26,583 --> 00:00:28,291 ...what is down there. 13 00:00:28,333 --> 00:00:29,500 This could change this investigation. 14 00:00:29,542 --> 00:00:32,000 Or it could halt it in its tracks, Brandon. 15 00:00:33,792 --> 00:00:37,500 {\an5}NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 16 00:00:37,542 --> 00:00:40,083 {\an1}It is considered the epicenter 17 00:00:40,125 --> 00:00:44,792 of the strangest and most {\an1}disturbing phenomena on Earth: 18 00:00:44,834 --> 00:00:47,166 animal mutilations, 19 00:00:47,208 --> 00:00:49,542 bizarre UFO sightings 20 00:00:49,583 --> 00:00:54,750 {\an1}and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 21 00:00:54,792 --> 00:00:57,250 {\an8}For 20 years, {\an8}the federal government 22 00:00:57,291 --> 00:01:00,625 tried to find answers and failed. 23 00:01:00,667 --> 00:01:04,750 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 24 00:01:04,792 --> 00:01:08,625 researchers and experts has taken over. 25 00:01:08,667 --> 00:01:12,667 {\an1}They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 26 00:01:40,125 --> 00:01:42,083 ERIK (over radio): Hey, Tom. You copy? 27 00:01:42,125 --> 00:01:44,250 - Yeah, go ahead. 28 00:01:44,291 --> 00:01:47,917 {\an5}- You've almost completely {\an5}cleared our view from that camera. -THOMAS: Copy that. 29 00:01:47,959 --> 00:01:50,083 {\an1}TRAVIS: Now that we've been {\an1}given the go-ahead from Brandon 30 00:01:50,125 --> 00:01:52,083 {\an7}to begin digging on the ranch, 31 00:01:52,125 --> 00:01:53,583 {\an8}we thought it'd be {\an8}a good idea to install 32 00:01:53,625 --> 00:01:55,417 {\an7}a lot more security cameras. 33 00:01:55,458 --> 00:01:57,625 {\an8}That way, if something {\an8}strange happens, 34 00:01:57,667 --> 00:02:00,083 we have a better chance of catching it in the act. 35 00:02:00,125 --> 00:02:02,166 {\an1}- So, is that leveled up, Erik? 36 00:02:02,208 --> 00:02:03,375 ERIK: Uh, yes. 37 00:02:03,417 --> 00:02:05,125 {\an1}You've made a big difference. 38 00:02:05,166 --> 00:02:07,542 {\an8}- If we need to adjust it, {\an8}we can, a little bit, 39 00:02:07,583 --> 00:02:08,750 {\an8}towards the bait pens. 40 00:02:08,792 --> 00:02:10,583 {\an8}So, can you move it {\an8}around, then? 41 00:02:10,625 --> 00:02:12,583 {\an8}ERIK: Yeah, I'm pointing {\an8}at them right now. 42 00:02:12,625 --> 00:02:14,792 -There you go. -Okay, I've got them. 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,458 Bryant, do you copy? 44 00:02:18,500 --> 00:02:20,083 BRYANT: Yeah, Erik. Go ahead. 45 00:02:20,125 --> 00:02:21,709 {\an8}How are you guys {\an8}doing out there? 46 00:02:21,750 --> 00:02:24,625 {\an8}We're doing good. {\an8}One more piece to install. 47 00:02:24,667 --> 00:02:27,959 {\an8}ERIK: There's been unusual {\an8}activity on this property, 48 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,458 {\an8}over the course of, {\an8}you know, days. 49 00:02:29,500 --> 00:02:31,792 Radiation anomalies. 50 00:02:31,834 --> 00:02:33,834 Look, it is going nuts. 51 00:02:33,875 --> 00:02:35,041 It's coming from up there. 52 00:02:35,083 --> 00:02:37,417 ERIK: Unusual lights. 53 00:02:37,458 --> 00:02:39,125 THOMAS: That's a definite beam. 54 00:02:39,166 --> 00:02:41,834 It is clearly a beam going across there. 55 00:02:41,875 --> 00:02:43,375 We got something. Hold on. 56 00:02:43,417 --> 00:02:44,875 -THOMAS: Look, look, look. -ERIK: What is that? 57 00:02:44,917 --> 00:02:47,875 ERIK: {\an1}We saw a UFO over the property. 58 00:02:47,917 --> 00:02:49,291 -Oh, there it is again! -There it is again! 59 00:02:49,333 --> 00:02:51,166 {\an5}-TRAVIS: {\an1}It's still in the same spot! -Right there. 60 00:02:51,208 --> 00:02:54,417 {\an1}We don't know why it occurs or when it occurs. 61 00:02:54,458 --> 00:02:56,125 It's not predictable. 62 00:02:56,166 --> 00:02:58,625 {\an5}TRAVIS: Let's get as far out on the end as we can. 63 00:02:58,667 --> 00:03:01,875 {\an7}ERIK: So, it's helpful to have {\an7}constant monitoring in place. 64 00:03:01,917 --> 00:03:03,792 Now we need the screws and the drill. 65 00:03:03,834 --> 00:03:06,709 {\an5}ERIK: Something that may help us to pull back 66 00:03:06,750 --> 00:03:10,291 the curtain on what {\an1}the phenomenology really is. 67 00:03:10,333 --> 00:03:13,166 {\an5}-Yeah, that is not gonna go anywhere, man. -Sweet. 68 00:03:13,208 --> 00:03:15,458 {\an5}BRYANT: Okay, man, we'll finish cleaning up here 69 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:17,291 and we'll head back in. 70 00:03:17,333 --> 00:03:19,458 ERIK: Yep, absolutely. 71 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:21,917 Thanks, guys. 72 00:03:21,959 --> 00:03:24,834 TOM: 32, 34, 36, 38. 73 00:03:24,875 --> 00:03:27,917 KANDUS: I got 38. 74 00:03:27,959 --> 00:03:29,917 {\an7}You see any over in those trees? 75 00:03:29,959 --> 00:03:31,917 {\an8}-By the trees? Yeah. {\an8}-Yeah. 76 00:03:31,959 --> 00:03:33,625 {\an8}40, 41, 42. 77 00:03:33,667 --> 00:03:35,333 {\an7}All hanging out right here. 78 00:03:35,375 --> 00:03:37,917 Kandus and I are caretakers here on the ranch, 79 00:03:37,959 --> 00:03:40,917 and one of the things that we do 80 00:03:40,959 --> 00:03:43,333 {\an1}is keep track of the cattle. 81 00:03:43,375 --> 00:03:45,625 {\an1}You know, because there has been cattle mutilations 82 00:03:45,667 --> 00:03:47,959 {\an1}over the past few decades here. 83 00:03:49,667 --> 00:03:51,792 {\an1}All right. So, there's those. 84 00:03:51,834 --> 00:03:53,667 We're the eyes and ears of this place. 85 00:03:53,709 --> 00:03:57,917 {\an1}We're constantly looking up, looking out, listening. 86 00:03:57,959 --> 00:04:01,750 We do keep good notes {\an1}on each day that happens here. 87 00:04:01,792 --> 00:04:04,583 Tom, Kandus? You copy? 88 00:04:04,625 --> 00:04:06,417 KANDUS: Yep. Go ahead, Erik. 89 00:04:06,458 --> 00:04:07,834 How are those cows doing? 90 00:04:07,875 --> 00:04:09,917 {\an1}Yeah, they're all accounted for. 91 00:04:09,959 --> 00:04:11,750 They're all bunched up in the corner. 92 00:04:11,792 --> 00:04:13,667 {\an5}TOM: {\an1}They definitely like this area in the trees here. 93 00:04:13,709 --> 00:04:15,250 ERIK: Oh, yeah, I see them. 94 00:04:15,291 --> 00:04:17,583 They're all in one spot. 95 00:04:17,625 --> 00:04:19,709 {\an5}KANDUS: I mean, it's almost like {\an1}they're scared of something. 96 00:04:19,750 --> 00:04:21,959 Very strange. 97 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,709 {\an1}Cameras are helpful because {\an1}it gives us additional eyes, 98 00:04:24,750 --> 00:04:27,291 {\an1}so to speak, in places where we can't be all the time. 99 00:04:27,333 --> 00:04:30,208 It's like having assistance 24/7. 100 00:04:30,250 --> 00:04:32,125 {\an1}I think between the three of us, 101 00:04:32,166 --> 00:04:35,000 let's keep an eye on that. 102 00:04:35,041 --> 00:04:38,750 It's absolutely important to continue the work. 103 00:04:38,792 --> 00:04:40,583 Of course, with heightened vigilance. 104 00:04:55,041 --> 00:04:57,542 {\an8}TRAVIS: Before we start {\an8}drilling, we want to do 105 00:04:57,583 --> 00:04:59,542 {\an8}one more sweep {\an8}of the target site. 106 00:04:59,583 --> 00:05:02,625 {\an1}Hopefully, there's no danger of any of us getting sick. 107 00:05:02,667 --> 00:05:05,125 THOMAS: There's Qal-Tek. 108 00:05:05,166 --> 00:05:06,834 {\an8}BRANDON: {\an8}When the team requested 109 00:05:06,875 --> 00:05:09,709 {\an8}to proceed forward {\an8}with digging, 110 00:05:09,750 --> 00:05:13,083 {\an7}to find out exactly what was {\an7}underground, I was hesitant. 111 00:05:13,125 --> 00:05:16,375 We're always concerned about disturbing the earth, 112 00:05:16,417 --> 00:05:18,792 because we've seen bad things happen. 113 00:05:18,834 --> 00:05:21,041 {\an5}-You guys remember Casey from Qal-Tek? -Hey, guys. 114 00:05:21,083 --> 00:05:23,166 {\an5}BRANDON: We've had people in the emergency room 115 00:05:23,208 --> 00:05:24,625 with serious injuries that, 116 00:05:24,667 --> 00:05:27,750 frankly, to this day, remain unexplained. 117 00:05:27,792 --> 00:05:30,583 {\an7}So, uh, what do we got going on? 118 00:05:30,625 --> 00:05:34,458 {\an7}Well, we'd like you guys to do {\an7}another, uh, radiation sweep 119 00:05:34,500 --> 00:05:37,625 {\an7}down at Homestead Two, 'cause we {\an7}planned on drilling out there, 120 00:05:37,667 --> 00:05:40,125 {\an8}but Jim and I, and, uh, {\an7}and another guy were in there, 121 00:05:40,166 --> 00:05:43,458 {\an8}our meters went crazy, {\an7}and they had weird readings. 122 00:05:43,500 --> 00:05:46,166 I-I got, uh, nauseous and a headache 123 00:05:46,208 --> 00:05:47,792 and I had some burns come up on my body. 124 00:05:47,834 --> 00:05:49,458 Really? 125 00:05:49,500 --> 00:05:52,041 T-They formed blisters, {\an1}just like I'd been sunburned. 126 00:05:52,083 --> 00:05:54,750 {\an1}And my doctor looked at them {\an1}and he said, "It looks like 127 00:05:54,792 --> 00:05:56,709 {\an1}"when we do radiation treatment on people, 128 00:05:56,750 --> 00:05:58,375 that's the kind of burns that you see." 129 00:05:58,417 --> 00:06:00,041 {\an1}Yeah, we want to definitely double-check that area, 130 00:06:00,083 --> 00:06:02,375 do a more thorough search through there, make sure 131 00:06:02,417 --> 00:06:04,583 {\an1}that there isn't anything there, {\an1}make sure you guys are safe, 132 00:06:04,625 --> 00:06:06,625 -so... {\an1}-Well, let's grab the gear, 133 00:06:06,667 --> 00:06:08,041 get in the two vehicles and head out. 134 00:06:08,083 --> 00:06:10,125 CASEY: Sounds good. 135 00:06:17,875 --> 00:06:19,458 {\an5}BRYANT: I didn't want to pull right in front, 136 00:06:19,500 --> 00:06:22,166 'cause I want to stay {\an1}at least a little ways away 137 00:06:22,208 --> 00:06:25,000 {\an1}until Casey gets a chance to get {\an1}in there and poke around a bit. 138 00:06:25,041 --> 00:06:27,709 {\an5}SEGALA: And you can't send someone in there alone, 139 00:06:27,750 --> 00:06:29,458 {\an5}-so I'm gonna be right behind you. -CASEY: Okay. 140 00:06:29,500 --> 00:06:31,834 And you're trained {\an1}in understanding the effects 141 00:06:31,875 --> 00:06:33,875 of this stuff, {\an1}so if you notice anything... 142 00:06:33,917 --> 00:06:36,250 -Yeah. {\an1}-...get out of there, right? 143 00:06:36,291 --> 00:06:38,250 {\an5}-Yeah. -TRAVIS: After my previous visit 144 00:06:38,291 --> 00:06:39,750 to Homestead Two, 145 00:06:39,792 --> 00:06:42,083 I ended up with some nasty radiation burns. 146 00:06:42,125 --> 00:06:44,875 {\an1}So I decided it's probably best I keep my distance 147 00:06:44,917 --> 00:06:47,750 {\an1}until Jim and Casey can figure {\an1}out what's going on over there. 148 00:06:47,792 --> 00:06:49,542 I mean, maybe Erik's right. 149 00:06:49,583 --> 00:06:51,834 Maybe there is some kind of powerful energy there 150 00:06:51,875 --> 00:06:54,375 that's buried somewhere deep underground. 151 00:06:54,417 --> 00:06:55,875 All right, guys. Y'all be careful in there, 152 00:06:55,917 --> 00:06:57,125 watch each other's backs. 153 00:06:57,166 --> 00:06:58,917 CASEY: All right, sounds good. 154 00:06:58,959 --> 00:07:00,917 {\an5}-All right. {\an1}-So right around the corner here is where we started. 155 00:07:00,959 --> 00:07:02,500 Okay. 156 00:07:02,542 --> 00:07:04,667 We'll start in the back where the, uh, cistern is. 157 00:07:06,375 --> 00:07:07,917 (Geiger counter clicking) 158 00:07:07,959 --> 00:07:09,375 {\an5}CASEY: Everything, everything I'm seeing here 159 00:07:09,417 --> 00:07:10,667 -is all just background. -SEGALA: Pretty low? 160 00:07:10,709 --> 00:07:12,375 CASEY: {\an1}Yeah. Just background. Nothing. 161 00:07:12,417 --> 00:07:14,250 {\an5}SEGALA: {\an1}This is actually the opposite of what we saw. 162 00:07:14,291 --> 00:07:16,667 All these nails over here, maybe? 163 00:07:16,709 --> 00:07:18,333 -Nothing? -Nothing. 164 00:07:18,375 --> 00:07:20,083 {\an5}-SEGALA: Okay. -Nothing up on the roofs, nothing. 165 00:07:20,125 --> 00:07:22,166 {\an1}-Are you finding anything? {\an1}-SEGALA: Not at this point. 166 00:07:22,208 --> 00:07:23,500 CASEY: {\an1}Nothing-- Not at this point. 167 00:07:23,542 --> 00:07:26,041 {\an1}-Just-just normal background? -Yep. 168 00:07:26,083 --> 00:07:28,834 -I think, really... {\an1}-You're not getting anything? 169 00:07:28,875 --> 00:07:31,333 {\an5}SEGALA: As we're looking around, the readings that we took 170 00:07:31,375 --> 00:07:33,166 using our instruments show 171 00:07:33,208 --> 00:07:35,250 that it was below {\an1}what they would normally read, 172 00:07:35,291 --> 00:07:36,792 and they didn't read anything higher 173 00:07:36,834 --> 00:07:38,750 than what we call background noise. 174 00:07:38,792 --> 00:07:40,750 Nope. 175 00:07:40,792 --> 00:07:42,667 Just background. 176 00:07:42,709 --> 00:07:44,709 {\an5}SEGALA: Maybe we can come focus over here more? 177 00:07:44,750 --> 00:07:46,125 -CASEY: Yep. -Where the well is. 178 00:07:46,166 --> 00:07:48,000 CASEY: {\an1}Is that the well, right there? 179 00:07:48,041 --> 00:07:50,375 -Okay. {\an1}-One of the things that we did 180 00:07:50,417 --> 00:07:52,667 is we took the top off, {\an1}and I'd like to do that again. 181 00:07:52,709 --> 00:07:55,667 {\an5}-Yep. {\an1}-But after we kind of check the {\an1}area and do a little, uh, scan. 182 00:07:58,792 --> 00:07:59,917 Okay. 183 00:08:06,333 --> 00:08:08,917 {\an5}-Nothing? -CASEY: Nothing. Just background. 184 00:08:08,959 --> 00:08:11,166 {\an1}Yep, that's just background. 185 00:08:12,667 --> 00:08:14,041 TRAVIS: This is interesting. 186 00:08:14,083 --> 00:08:16,041 In the same spot where, just last week, 187 00:08:16,083 --> 00:08:19,458 I got hit by a huge spike of ionizing radiation, 188 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:22,875 Casey and Jim are now getting zero readings. 189 00:08:22,917 --> 00:08:24,875 {\an1}So, n-nothing but background? 190 00:08:24,917 --> 00:08:26,667 Nothing but background. 191 00:08:26,709 --> 00:08:29,000 {\an5}SEGALA: At this point in time, there's no radiation. 192 00:08:29,041 --> 00:08:31,041 I mean, as far as what my meters are-are seeing, 193 00:08:31,083 --> 00:08:32,834 there's nothing there at the moment. 194 00:08:32,875 --> 00:08:35,166 {\an1}You know how crazy that sounds, {\an1}though? "At this point in time"? 195 00:08:35,208 --> 00:08:36,458 -It's... (groans) -I mean, that's becoming 196 00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:37,959 the catchphrase out here at the ranch. 197 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,041 "At this-- at this point in time." 198 00:08:40,083 --> 00:08:42,375 {\an1}I-It's almost like, you know, 199 00:08:42,417 --> 00:08:44,291 the ranch is, like, messing with us, you know? 200 00:08:44,333 --> 00:08:47,625 {\an1}We-we go in there and it's gonna poke us this time. 201 00:08:47,667 --> 00:08:49,208 And we-- Let's go right back and not-- 202 00:08:49,250 --> 00:08:50,417 That's how you make people crazy. 203 00:08:50,458 --> 00:08:53,000 BRYANT: We've done what we can. 204 00:08:53,041 --> 00:08:55,583 You know, the fact that {\an1}there's not a constant source 205 00:08:55,625 --> 00:08:57,417 {\an1}of something that's harmful 206 00:08:57,458 --> 00:08:59,500 makes me feel at least a little bit better 207 00:08:59,542 --> 00:09:00,709 {\an5}-about poking a hole in the ground. -Right. 208 00:09:00,750 --> 00:09:02,750 It does clear that hurdle 209 00:09:02,792 --> 00:09:05,458 of being able to come in and see what's under us. 210 00:09:05,500 --> 00:09:08,000 I agree. Well, let's load {\an1}our gear up and let's head out. 211 00:09:08,041 --> 00:09:10,750 {\an1}If there really is some kind of massive object 212 00:09:10,792 --> 00:09:14,542 or structure located {\an1}deep beneath Homestead Two, 213 00:09:14,583 --> 00:09:17,291 {\an1}then I'm eager to start drilling so we can find it. 214 00:09:17,333 --> 00:09:20,291 Could we be stirring up a hornets' nest here? Sure. 215 00:09:20,333 --> 00:09:24,583 {\an1}But why would we want to walk {\an1}away now without any answers? 216 00:09:36,375 --> 00:09:39,125 {\an5}THOMAS: So, I guess we're getting some new animals. 217 00:09:39,166 --> 00:09:42,000 Alpacas, I think, is what I think they are. 218 00:09:42,041 --> 00:09:43,834 Is that the ones that spit on you? 219 00:09:43,875 --> 00:09:46,000 {\an1}I think if you make 'em mad, yeah, they'll spit on you. 220 00:09:50,125 --> 00:09:51,750 Go ahead and open this. 221 00:09:51,792 --> 00:09:53,500 {\an8}TRAVIS: {\an8}We decided to see 222 00:09:53,542 --> 00:09:56,000 {\an7}if our drilling operation, {\an7}coupled with the introduction 223 00:09:56,041 --> 00:09:59,250 {\an7}of an exotic type of animal {\an7}would help trigger some kind 224 00:09:59,291 --> 00:10:01,333 {\an8}of strange {\an8}or unusual phenomenon. 225 00:10:01,375 --> 00:10:04,917 {\an1}So, Tom and Kandus arranged for {\an1}the delivery of two alpacas. 226 00:10:04,959 --> 00:10:06,333 THOMAS: That's probably good. 227 00:10:06,375 --> 00:10:08,291 TRAVIS: {\an1}That's a type of animal that, 228 00:10:08,333 --> 00:10:10,667 {\an1}as far as any of us know, has {\an1}never been on the ranch before. 229 00:10:10,709 --> 00:10:12,667 {\an8}-Hello, hello. {\an8}-KANDUS: Hey, Jim. 230 00:10:12,709 --> 00:10:14,291 {\an8}-Good to see you. {\an8}-You, too. 231 00:10:14,333 --> 00:10:15,625 -So excited. -I can see you, 232 00:10:15,667 --> 00:10:17,542 {\an5}-I can see you've already adopted 'em. -Yes. 233 00:10:17,583 --> 00:10:20,834 {\an7}The idea of bringing alpacas {\an8}on the ranch was 234 00:10:20,875 --> 00:10:22,458 {\an8}just to introduce {\an8}a different animal. 235 00:10:22,500 --> 00:10:23,917 {\an8}Something that's never {\an8}been here, 236 00:10:23,959 --> 00:10:26,333 {\an8}something a little bit {\an8}more exotic than a cow. 237 00:10:26,375 --> 00:10:27,583 {\an1}- I'm ready to rock and roll. 238 00:10:27,625 --> 00:10:29,458 KANDUS: We thought it would be interesting 239 00:10:29,500 --> 00:10:31,458 to just see how they react to the ranch 240 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:33,583 and how the ranch reacts to them. 241 00:10:33,625 --> 00:10:36,291 {\an8}We can put 'em in {\an8}this corner pen for now. 242 00:10:36,333 --> 00:10:39,125 {\an5}KANDUS: We're going to corral them to start with, 243 00:10:39,166 --> 00:10:41,458 {\an1}in a smaller space so they can get more comfortable 244 00:10:41,500 --> 00:10:43,583 {\an1}to the bigger scope of things, where we can 245 00:10:43,625 --> 00:10:45,667 {\an1}maybe eventually let them out in the pasture. 246 00:10:45,709 --> 00:10:47,083 {\an8}Just watch out {\an8}for their back legs, 247 00:10:47,125 --> 00:10:49,792 {\an7}'cause they will kick sometimes {\an8}if they're scared. 248 00:10:49,834 --> 00:10:52,375 {\an8}-Kandus, do it. {\an8}-Okay. 249 00:10:54,458 --> 00:10:57,625 Hi. Come here. 250 00:10:57,667 --> 00:11:02,500 It's okay, buddy. {\an1}Hey, come out. Oh, so sweet. 251 00:11:02,542 --> 00:11:04,375 (chuckles) Come here. 252 00:11:04,417 --> 00:11:06,458 {\an4}-TOM: Okay, just watch his legs. -KANDUS: There we go. TOM: There we go. 253 00:11:06,500 --> 00:11:10,417 {\an1}- Welcome. Oh, they're so sweet. 254 00:11:10,458 --> 00:11:11,709 TOM: {\an1}We ended up with the alpacas 255 00:11:11,750 --> 00:11:14,333 because they have very good eyesight, 256 00:11:14,375 --> 00:11:15,709 very good hearing, 257 00:11:15,750 --> 00:11:18,917 and are always aware {\an1}of what's going on around them. 258 00:11:18,959 --> 00:11:20,583 -KANDUS: Come on. {\an1}-TOM: Hopefully they'll react 259 00:11:20,625 --> 00:11:23,625 if they see something out of the ordinary. 260 00:11:23,667 --> 00:11:26,083 Welcome. This is where you're gonna live. 261 00:11:26,125 --> 00:11:27,959 TOM: But the only thing is, 262 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,709 they're not known to be very vocal. 263 00:11:30,750 --> 00:11:32,667 {\an1}So, which one is, uh, Lionel? 264 00:11:32,709 --> 00:11:35,208 {\an1}The, the chocolate brown, yeah. 265 00:11:35,250 --> 00:11:38,166 {\an4}-THOMAS: Jed is the lighter one. {\an1}-KANDUS: Yeah, he's the blonde. He's four. 266 00:11:38,208 --> 00:11:40,834 And then Lionel's ten. 267 00:11:40,875 --> 00:11:43,375 {\an8}KANDUS: I got my degree {\an8}in anthropology. 268 00:11:43,417 --> 00:11:45,792 {\an8}Which is really the study {\an8}of behavior. 269 00:11:45,834 --> 00:11:47,458 So, Tom and I, 270 00:11:47,500 --> 00:11:50,417 {\an1}being part of this whole team, we're hoping that 271 00:11:50,458 --> 00:11:51,959 it sheds light on things 272 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,542 {\an1}we hadn't ever really looked {\an1}into before, researching-wise. 273 00:11:54,583 --> 00:11:55,959 TOM: {\an1}They seem to like okay here. 274 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,917 They're doing-- yeah, {\an1}and their ears are telling, too, 275 00:11:57,959 --> 00:11:59,542 when they stand up. 276 00:11:59,583 --> 00:12:01,291 {\an8}BRANDON: {\an8}I like the idea 277 00:12:01,333 --> 00:12:04,250 {\an8}of introducing {\an8}new types of animals 278 00:12:04,291 --> 00:12:07,166 {\an7}to the property in order to see {\an8}if that will stimulate 279 00:12:07,208 --> 00:12:10,667 {\an7}different types of interactions {\an8}with the phenomena. 280 00:12:10,709 --> 00:12:15,834 {\an1}And it's something that will {\an1}hopefully bring new insight. 281 00:12:15,875 --> 00:12:18,125 {\an5}-They look like {\an1}they're pretty comfortable. -KANDUS: Yeah. 282 00:12:18,166 --> 00:12:20,917 People think we're crazy to want to live out here, 283 00:12:20,959 --> 00:12:23,000 because of the history. 284 00:12:23,041 --> 00:12:24,875 I would like to see some of these things 285 00:12:24,917 --> 00:12:26,375 people have explained and described, 286 00:12:26,417 --> 00:12:27,959 {\an1}'cause I think it's fascinating. 287 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,583 {\an5}JIM: So, you guys gonna keep a close eye? 288 00:12:30,625 --> 00:12:32,166 {\an5}TOM: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see 289 00:12:32,208 --> 00:12:33,583 if the ranch changes, 290 00:12:33,625 --> 00:12:36,792 {\an1}or if, you know, if they pick up on anything different. 291 00:12:36,834 --> 00:12:39,709 My goal is to experience this place 292 00:12:39,750 --> 00:12:42,458 {\an1}and to understand this place. 293 00:12:42,500 --> 00:12:44,667 And hope that I can see something, too. 294 00:12:44,709 --> 00:12:46,250 {\an5}-Okay. -Okay. Good job. -KANDUS: All right. 295 00:12:46,291 --> 00:12:47,750 -We good? -Yeah. 296 00:13:01,667 --> 00:13:03,125 Uncle Jim. 297 00:13:03,166 --> 00:13:05,959 -Hey, guys, how you doing? {\an1}-BRYANT: How are you, brother? 298 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,417 {\an1}It's always good to see you. 299 00:13:07,458 --> 00:13:09,208 Want to introduce you to a very close friend 300 00:13:09,250 --> 00:13:10,834 and confidant here. 301 00:13:10,875 --> 00:13:12,208 {\an1}Uh, this is Larry Cesspooch. 302 00:13:12,250 --> 00:13:13,750 -Larry, I'm Bryant. -Hi, how's it going? 303 00:13:13,792 --> 00:13:15,125 {\an8}-Hey. Travis Taylor. {\an8}-Glad to meet you. 304 00:13:15,166 --> 00:13:17,750 {\an8}-Nice to meet you. {\an7}-Hey, guys, let's have a seat. 305 00:13:17,792 --> 00:13:21,625 {\an5}JIM: Larry Cesspooch is a local Ute leader. 306 00:13:21,667 --> 00:13:24,041 {\an1}He's very spiritually in touch 307 00:13:24,083 --> 00:13:26,458 with what we've got here on Skinwalker. 308 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:27,875 {\an8}You know, there's {\an8}a lot of people 309 00:13:27,917 --> 00:13:30,000 {\an8}that profess to be {\an8}spiritual leaders, 310 00:13:30,041 --> 00:13:33,750 {\an8}but Larry has a really {\an7}true perspective on this area. 311 00:13:33,792 --> 00:13:35,583 {\an1}You know, this is home to him. 312 00:13:35,625 --> 00:13:39,000 {\an5}TRAVIS: {\an1}Skinwalker Ranch is pretty much surrounded on all sides 313 00:13:39,041 --> 00:13:40,583 {\an1}by members of the Ute tribe. 314 00:13:40,625 --> 00:13:42,542 These are people who are very familiar 315 00:13:42,583 --> 00:13:45,542 with all the strange {\an1}UFO activity that happens here. 316 00:13:45,583 --> 00:13:48,750 {\an1}Now, because I'm a scientist, {\an1}you'd think I wouldn't be open 317 00:13:48,792 --> 00:13:51,583 to spiritualism {\an1}or the so-called paranormal, 318 00:13:51,625 --> 00:13:54,250 but I think it's important that we examine 319 00:13:54,291 --> 00:13:57,458 all the possibilities, even the ones that offer 320 00:13:57,500 --> 00:13:59,208 {\an1}more mystical explanations. 321 00:13:59,250 --> 00:14:02,208 {\an1}You know, it's interesting. I've been on the property 322 00:14:02,250 --> 00:14:06,333 {\an1}since the current ownership purchased the place. 323 00:14:06,375 --> 00:14:09,333 And, you know, {\an1}everybody seems to experience 324 00:14:09,375 --> 00:14:12,083 things, and sometimes not the nicest things. 325 00:14:12,125 --> 00:14:13,959 {\an1}It's a very powerful place. 326 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,208 {\an1}Our people, the Ute people, 327 00:14:16,250 --> 00:14:19,375 {\an1}were through Colorado and Utah, 328 00:14:19,417 --> 00:14:22,709 {\an1}and generations have talked about things 329 00:14:22,750 --> 00:14:24,333 {\an1}that have happened in this area, 330 00:14:24,375 --> 00:14:28,542 {\an1}and our people have accepted it {\an1}as just part of this universe. 331 00:14:28,583 --> 00:14:33,166 {\an1}And so, just as there's white, {\an1}there's black, and good and bad, 332 00:14:33,208 --> 00:14:34,333 and all of that. 333 00:14:34,375 --> 00:14:35,917 {\an1}So, I appreciate hearing that. 334 00:14:35,959 --> 00:14:39,375 {\an1}So, I'd like to kind of get {\an1}your perspective on something. 335 00:14:39,417 --> 00:14:41,875 LARRY: Sure. 336 00:14:41,917 --> 00:14:46,041 It's kind of awe-inspiring and-and awe-striking to me 337 00:14:46,083 --> 00:14:48,333 when I stand out here {\an1}in the middle of the field, 338 00:14:48,375 --> 00:14:51,834 I realize I'm standing inside a big bowl. 339 00:14:51,875 --> 00:14:55,166 {\an1}I wonder if this is kind of like a collector 340 00:14:55,208 --> 00:14:58,125 {\an1}of whatever's going on here. {\an1}Maybe that's why it's here. 341 00:14:58,166 --> 00:15:01,709 I think it's more like a funnel... 342 00:15:01,750 --> 00:15:03,959 where everything comes to a point. 343 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,834 And so... 344 00:15:06,875 --> 00:15:10,667 I don't know if you want to call it a portal? 345 00:15:10,709 --> 00:15:14,000 A lot of people have called it that. 346 00:15:14,041 --> 00:15:17,417 {\an1}Where in your mind do you fit something like that 347 00:15:17,458 --> 00:15:19,250 as far as an explanation? 348 00:15:19,291 --> 00:15:21,500 {\an5}-Oh, yeah, I... -I'm just curious. Someone like yourself. 349 00:15:21,542 --> 00:15:23,125 I have no doubt that it's, 350 00:15:23,166 --> 00:15:26,875 uh, from something... 351 00:15:26,917 --> 00:15:28,208 not of this earth. 352 00:15:28,250 --> 00:15:31,250 -Okay. -TRAVIS: Historically, 353 00:15:31,291 --> 00:15:32,750 is there tribal history 354 00:15:32,792 --> 00:15:34,583 {\an1}that says that there were things that they saw here? 355 00:15:34,625 --> 00:15:35,875 Yeah. 356 00:15:35,917 --> 00:15:37,875 Our people, in Ute, 357 00:15:37,917 --> 00:15:40,875 {\an1}what people call skinwalkers, we call that 358 00:15:40,917 --> 00:15:44,875 "ya-go-ven-sin-ite," which means "coyote-like." 359 00:15:44,917 --> 00:15:47,083 TRAVIS: Have you ever seen one? 360 00:15:47,125 --> 00:15:48,500 I haven't seen one, 361 00:15:48,542 --> 00:15:51,500 {\an1}but I've had many people tell me about what they've seen. 362 00:15:51,542 --> 00:15:53,542 When I was in high school, 363 00:15:53,583 --> 00:15:55,917 we came and we hauled hay for this old couple, 364 00:15:55,959 --> 00:15:58,583 and it was this field right here. 365 00:15:58,625 --> 00:15:59,917 They had these big dogs, 366 00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:02,291 and they had a bunch {\an1}of dead bolts on their door. 367 00:16:02,333 --> 00:16:06,166 And so I asked 'em, uh, "What's the dead bolts 368 00:16:06,208 --> 00:16:07,583 and the dogs for?" 369 00:16:07,625 --> 00:16:10,250 And they said, {\an1}"Well, things come at night." 370 00:16:12,125 --> 00:16:17,583 Skinwalker Ranch really {\an1}derived its name from a curse. 371 00:16:17,625 --> 00:16:21,417 The skinwalker curse has its roots in a feud 372 00:16:21,458 --> 00:16:24,667 between the Ute tribe and the Navajo tribe. 373 00:16:24,709 --> 00:16:28,125 At a time when the Utes were really aligned 374 00:16:28,166 --> 00:16:29,834 with the United States government 375 00:16:29,875 --> 00:16:32,166 and had sold many of their peers 376 00:16:32,208 --> 00:16:33,583 into slavery. 377 00:16:33,625 --> 00:16:37,166 So, the Navajo cursed this property. 378 00:16:37,208 --> 00:16:41,083 A skinwalker is essentially a witch 379 00:16:41,125 --> 00:16:44,500 that has chosen to put on the skin, 380 00:16:44,542 --> 00:16:46,375 essentially, or the form 381 00:16:46,417 --> 00:16:50,041 {\an1}of what can only be described as a giant wolf. 382 00:16:50,083 --> 00:16:52,959 A skinwalker is something that exhibits 383 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,917 superhuman agility and strength. 384 00:16:56,959 --> 00:16:59,458 {\an1}Placing the skinwalker curse on this property 385 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:04,041 made it a very real place to avoid. 386 00:17:04,083 --> 00:17:09,500 {\an1}We've heard all these stories {\an1}that if you dig on this ranch, 387 00:17:09,542 --> 00:17:11,250 bad things might happen to the people 388 00:17:11,291 --> 00:17:13,000 that do the digging. 389 00:17:13,041 --> 00:17:15,125 {\an1}So, there's a space down here {\an1}that we've got instruments 390 00:17:15,166 --> 00:17:17,000 that say there might be something underground, 391 00:17:17,041 --> 00:17:19,542 but the only way to know is to drill. 392 00:17:19,583 --> 00:17:21,458 We want to do it safely, {\an1}and we certainly don't want 393 00:17:21,500 --> 00:17:23,000 {\an5}-to do something that's-that's dangerous. -Right, right. 394 00:17:23,041 --> 00:17:24,917 But we'd love to get your perspective on it. 395 00:17:24,959 --> 00:17:28,166 Well, normally when we, we do anything 396 00:17:28,208 --> 00:17:29,542 to disturb the earth, 397 00:17:29,583 --> 00:17:32,166 we usually lay down the blessing. 398 00:17:32,208 --> 00:17:34,834 'Cause I don't want to tap into something 399 00:17:34,875 --> 00:17:36,542 {\an5}-that isn't meant to be tapped into. -Amen! 400 00:17:36,583 --> 00:17:38,000 {\an1}That's been my whole contention 401 00:17:38,041 --> 00:17:39,083 the entire time. 402 00:17:39,125 --> 00:17:40,917 Let's put it this way. 403 00:17:40,959 --> 00:17:43,250 {\an5}-Let's go and see. -I would love that. -That'd be great. 404 00:17:43,291 --> 00:17:44,792 Well, why don't {\an1}we head out there and look? 405 00:17:44,834 --> 00:17:45,875 Let's go for it. 406 00:17:48,166 --> 00:17:50,125 {\an8}BRYANT: {\an8}It's a vast property. 407 00:17:50,166 --> 00:17:51,667 {\an8}LARRY: {\an8}How many acres? 408 00:17:51,709 --> 00:17:54,417 -About 512 total. -Oh, wow. 409 00:17:54,458 --> 00:17:56,667 {\an5}-I didn't realize it was that big. -BRYANT: You know, 410 00:17:56,709 --> 00:17:58,417 {\an1}it goes quite a ways south. 411 00:17:58,458 --> 00:18:00,291 {\an5}TRAVIS: Larry Cesspooch performing a Ute tribal blessing 412 00:18:00,333 --> 00:18:02,000 at the drill site 413 00:18:02,041 --> 00:18:05,000 {\an1}might help calm the anxiety {\an1}that some of the guys have 414 00:18:05,041 --> 00:18:06,917 {\an1}about disturbing the ground on the ranch. 415 00:18:06,959 --> 00:18:10,041 {\an1}And who knows? Maybe it will really help keep us safe. 416 00:18:10,083 --> 00:18:12,375 BRYANT: {\an1}As you can tell, this is one 417 00:18:12,417 --> 00:18:15,333 of the old dwellings here. We call it Homestead Two. 418 00:18:15,375 --> 00:18:17,792 This is an area where people have had 419 00:18:17,834 --> 00:18:19,792 various experiences. I'll leave it at that. 420 00:18:19,834 --> 00:18:21,959 TRAVIS: So, if we decide to dig, 421 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,125 it's gonna be along this roadway, 422 00:18:24,166 --> 00:18:26,375 {\an1}where we detected anomalies under the ground. 423 00:18:26,417 --> 00:18:27,458 We don't know what it is, 424 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:28,834 we just know it's something different 425 00:18:28,875 --> 00:18:31,041 than the rest of the dirt around, 426 00:18:31,083 --> 00:18:32,458 -under the ground here. -Right. 427 00:18:32,500 --> 00:18:34,834 {\an1}I, I will lay some tobacco. 428 00:18:34,875 --> 00:18:38,875 {\an1}I will ask for understanding 429 00:18:38,917 --> 00:18:41,041 {\an1}that no one be hurt or affected. 430 00:18:41,083 --> 00:18:44,291 {\an1}-We'll listen with reverence. -LARRY: Sure. 431 00:18:45,834 --> 00:18:51,417 - [Speaking Ute] Look, Father, Creator of... 432 00:18:51,458 --> 00:18:55,875 {\an1}...all good things, this land. 433 00:18:55,917 --> 00:18:59,542 Ute people... 434 00:18:59,583 --> 00:19:02,166 ...let me hear you. 435 00:19:04,125 --> 00:19:07,125 Help these men who... 436 00:19:07,166 --> 00:19:08,875 ...want to know what it is. 437 00:19:10,583 --> 00:19:12,208 Help us. 438 00:19:14,041 --> 00:19:15,750 Help us. 439 00:19:16,875 --> 00:19:18,542 Thank you, Creator. Good Spirits. 440 00:19:22,709 --> 00:19:23,959 Okay. 441 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,208 -Wow. {\an1}-Thank you very much for that. 442 00:19:26,250 --> 00:19:28,625 {\an1}We appreciate you helping us with that. 443 00:19:28,667 --> 00:19:32,125 {\an5}LARRY: {\an1}Yeah, I would hope that you all {\an1}would have been praying with me, 444 00:19:32,166 --> 00:19:34,750 'cause you're the ones who's gonna do it. 445 00:19:34,792 --> 00:19:36,750 And if it's something 446 00:19:36,792 --> 00:19:41,125 {\an1}that, uh, we shouldn't touch or tap into, 447 00:19:41,166 --> 00:19:43,500 your instruments, your machinery, 448 00:19:43,542 --> 00:19:44,917 will malfunction. 449 00:19:44,959 --> 00:19:48,667 {\an1}And just take that as a sign that... it's not good. 450 00:19:48,709 --> 00:19:51,041 Just leave it at that. 451 00:19:51,083 --> 00:19:52,375 Can't tell you how much I appreciate everything. 452 00:19:52,417 --> 00:19:53,917 {\an5}TRAVIS: Yeah, he's been trying to tell us no, 453 00:19:53,959 --> 00:19:57,959 {\an5}-and, and I think this, this helps. -Right. 454 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,166 -Thank you so much. {\an1}-Thanks for having me, yeah. 455 00:20:01,208 --> 00:20:03,667 {\an5}TRAVIS: Great to meet you, Larry. Thank you. 456 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,458 {\an7}THOMAS: The rig operator said {\an7}that his rig's 12 foot tall. 457 00:20:16,500 --> 00:20:18,500 {\an1}And so we're just gonna whack these branches off. 458 00:20:21,917 --> 00:20:25,917 {\an5}ERIK: Today is a day without {\an1}precedent on Skinwalker Ranch. 459 00:20:25,959 --> 00:20:27,959 {\an7}We're drilling into the ground {\an8}after having done 460 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,709 {\an7}ground-penetrating radar surveys {\an8}near Homestead Two. 461 00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:32,875 SEGALA: That's perfect. 462 00:20:32,917 --> 00:20:34,667 (exhales) 463 00:20:34,709 --> 00:20:37,375 ERIK: We're told {\an1}that some kind of misfortune 464 00:20:37,417 --> 00:20:39,291 often accompanies digging. 465 00:20:39,333 --> 00:20:41,458 We don't assume that there's a danger, 466 00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:43,208 but we also don't assume that there isn't. 467 00:20:44,959 --> 00:20:46,917 {\an5}SEGALA: In my opinion, we're ready to dig. 468 00:20:46,959 --> 00:20:49,834 {\an1}We have the right personnel. {\an1}We hired the right consultants. 469 00:20:49,875 --> 00:20:51,291 {\an8}We're well protected. 470 00:20:51,333 --> 00:20:53,458 {\an7}We're ready to get out of there {\an8}if anything bad happens, 471 00:20:53,500 --> 00:20:55,041 so we're ready to go. 472 00:20:55,083 --> 00:20:56,667 TRAVIS: That's a pretty big drill. 473 00:20:56,709 --> 00:20:59,250 Yeah, this is on Brandon's mandate. 474 00:20:59,291 --> 00:21:01,333 It certainly wasn't mine. 475 00:21:01,375 --> 00:21:03,000 TRAVIS: {\an1}It's gonna be all right, Dragon. 476 00:21:05,458 --> 00:21:07,208 BRYANT: {\an1}I still have some reservations 477 00:21:07,250 --> 00:21:09,750 about digging or drilling on the property. 478 00:21:09,792 --> 00:21:13,750 {\an7}A lot of the activity associated {\an8}with digging on the ranch 479 00:21:13,792 --> 00:21:16,709 {\an7}isn't necessarily what you're {\an7}gonna pull out of the ground... 480 00:21:16,750 --> 00:21:18,709 -How we doing? -...but what may happen 481 00:21:18,750 --> 00:21:20,625 {\an1}when you do disturb the earth. 482 00:21:20,667 --> 00:21:23,291 {\an5}-You guys are ready to do some work, huh? -JEREMY: Yeah. 483 00:21:23,333 --> 00:21:25,458 {\an5}BRYANT: I guess we'll have you come on in, then. 484 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:27,667 TRAVIS: {\an1}Ground-penetrating radar said 485 00:21:27,709 --> 00:21:30,500 {\an8}there's something under {\an8}the road that's anomalous, 486 00:21:30,542 --> 00:21:31,917 {\an8}and the only way {\an8}to get down there 487 00:21:31,959 --> 00:21:33,583 {\an7}and look at it is to dig a hole. 488 00:21:33,625 --> 00:21:34,959 {\an8}So that's what {\an8}we're going to do. 489 00:21:36,083 --> 00:21:37,542 {\an8}THOMAS: {\an8}Hey, guys. I'm Thomas. 490 00:21:37,583 --> 00:21:39,375 {\an8}I'm the ranch {\an8}superintendent here. 491 00:21:39,417 --> 00:21:41,709 {\an8}-Jeremy. {\an8}-Hey, Jeremy. 492 00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:43,750 {\an7}So, what we found, guys, is-- {\an7}we did ground-penetrating radar 493 00:21:43,792 --> 00:21:45,458 {\an7}on-- along the roadway here, 494 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:47,792 {\an8}and so there's something {\an8}along this stretch 495 00:21:47,834 --> 00:21:50,250 {\an8}from about where we are {\an8}on past that homestead, 496 00:21:50,291 --> 00:21:52,083 {\an8}probably 50 feet or so. 497 00:21:52,125 --> 00:21:54,875 {\an1}We've had some-- I don't want to call 'em issues-- 498 00:21:54,917 --> 00:21:57,250 but some events, {\an1}where there might have been 499 00:21:57,291 --> 00:21:59,291 some radioactive decay particles. 500 00:21:59,333 --> 00:22:00,917 There might have been some toxic chemicals. 501 00:22:00,959 --> 00:22:04,083 {\an8}So we'd like to go small {\an7}distances, like a few feet, 502 00:22:04,125 --> 00:22:06,583 {\an8}measure it with equipment {\an8}that Casey brought, 503 00:22:06,625 --> 00:22:10,041 {\an7}and then, then when it's clear, {\an8}do the next few feet 504 00:22:10,083 --> 00:22:12,625 {\an7}and-and make sure that we're not {\an7}getting anybody in any situation 505 00:22:12,667 --> 00:22:14,542 {\an7}-we don't want to be in, right? {\an8}-CASEY: Sure. 506 00:22:14,583 --> 00:22:16,792 {\an5}TRAVIS: The first hole we're gonna drill today 507 00:22:16,834 --> 00:22:18,792 will be at the far end of Homestead Two. 508 00:22:18,834 --> 00:22:21,375 Now, Jeremy Lebeau has been instructed to go easy, 509 00:22:21,417 --> 00:22:24,375 in case we hit something really dangerous. 510 00:22:24,417 --> 00:22:26,625 We're drilling today with hollow-stem augers. 511 00:22:26,667 --> 00:22:28,041 {\an1}They're hollow in the middle. 512 00:22:28,083 --> 00:22:29,417 That allows us to go down 513 00:22:29,458 --> 00:22:31,166 through the middle with our sampler. 514 00:22:31,208 --> 00:22:34,500 We'd bring up the sample, look inside of it, 515 00:22:34,542 --> 00:22:36,500 {\an1}and you can do whatever readings {\an1}you need to do at that point. 516 00:22:36,542 --> 00:22:38,166 And that would be before we drill down 517 00:22:38,208 --> 00:22:40,375 -and really disturb it. {\an1}-TRAVIS: Yeah, I like that. 518 00:22:40,417 --> 00:22:42,041 {\an1}Well, let's get him located 519 00:22:42,083 --> 00:22:44,083 {\an5}-where we want to plunge that first hole. -Yeah. 520 00:22:44,125 --> 00:22:46,291 Let's get you situated to {\an1}measure whatever they pull up 521 00:22:46,333 --> 00:22:47,709 -from that, right? -Correct. Correct. 522 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,500 -You want it right there? -Yep. 523 00:22:55,542 --> 00:22:57,250 Right in the middle of the road, right there. 524 00:23:00,417 --> 00:23:03,458 {\an5}ERIK: Unusual things happen out at Homestead Two. 525 00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:05,083 It's undeniable. 526 00:23:05,125 --> 00:23:07,458 There's talk about things being buried here. 527 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:11,208 {\an7}There are rumors that there is {\an8}some kind of alien activity 528 00:23:11,250 --> 00:23:12,959 {\an8}beneath this property, 529 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,041 {\an8}and here we are, {\an8}at that very spot, 530 00:23:16,083 --> 00:23:18,375 {\an8}ready to start exploring {\an8}what's beneath the ground, 531 00:23:18,417 --> 00:23:21,458 {\an8}but we really don't know {\an8}what we're going to find. 532 00:23:24,500 --> 00:23:27,208 {\an5}THOMAS: {\an1}So, guys, before you drill, I'm gonna, 533 00:23:27,250 --> 00:23:28,959 I'm gonna remove myself. 534 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,875 {\an5}-Keep us posted on how you're doing. -All right. 535 00:23:30,917 --> 00:23:32,291 Okay. 536 00:23:34,291 --> 00:23:37,125 My rational mind says that there's no problem 537 00:23:37,166 --> 00:23:38,792 digging on the ranch. 538 00:23:38,834 --> 00:23:41,834 My experience makes me very superstitious. 539 00:23:41,875 --> 00:23:44,250 I didn't believe in the paranormal 540 00:23:44,291 --> 00:23:46,000 {\an1}when I came out on this ranch. 541 00:23:46,041 --> 00:23:48,125 It wasn't until my injury that I really bought 542 00:23:48,166 --> 00:23:50,250 into the whole notion of digging. 543 00:23:50,291 --> 00:23:55,542 We can check for radiation or gases that come out, 544 00:23:55,583 --> 00:23:57,542 but show me the scientific meter 545 00:23:57,583 --> 00:24:00,500 {\an1}that can pick up bad spirits or bad energies. 546 00:24:00,542 --> 00:24:03,125 And until we have that, we can't say 547 00:24:03,166 --> 00:24:04,709 that we can monitor for every bad thing 548 00:24:04,750 --> 00:24:06,542 that could possibly {\an1}be coming out of the earth. 549 00:24:08,375 --> 00:24:10,792 BRYANT: Here we go. 550 00:24:17,458 --> 00:24:19,583 SEGALA: {\an1}So, is this the core sample now? 551 00:24:19,625 --> 00:24:21,583 JEREMY: {\an1}Yep. He's getting a sample. 552 00:24:21,625 --> 00:24:24,333 Oh, so you're getting dirt before you even drill. 553 00:24:24,375 --> 00:24:26,166 -That's right. -Oh, that's sweet. 554 00:24:26,208 --> 00:24:30,583 {\an1}The drilling just facilitates, {\an1}to get to the depth to sample. 555 00:24:32,125 --> 00:24:33,750 TRAVIS: {\an1}There are a couple of reasons 556 00:24:33,792 --> 00:24:36,250 why we don't just bring excavation equipment out 557 00:24:36,291 --> 00:24:38,083 and just dig the whole ranch up. 558 00:24:38,125 --> 00:24:39,709 Number one, we're not sure what's down there. 559 00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:42,709 And so, it's safer to do core samples first. 560 00:24:42,750 --> 00:24:46,458 {\an1}When we pull the core sample up and we look at it, 561 00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:48,125 the first thing we're doing is having Casey 562 00:24:48,166 --> 00:24:49,583 check it for radioactive material. 563 00:24:49,625 --> 00:24:51,417 There's no radiation or anything in there? 564 00:24:51,458 --> 00:24:52,709 {\an5}-Right, Casey? -CASEY: Nothing there. Got nothing. 565 00:24:52,750 --> 00:24:54,709 So we can keep moving. 566 00:24:59,834 --> 00:25:04,625 {\an1}I have no preconceived ideas {\an1}of what it is we're gonna hit. 567 00:25:04,667 --> 00:25:07,333 {\an1}All I know is, it's something {\an1}different than the regular dirt? 568 00:25:07,375 --> 00:25:09,792 Well, that's kind of what we're good at, is... 569 00:25:09,834 --> 00:25:12,000 Usually, it's for engineering purposes, 570 00:25:12,041 --> 00:25:13,500 but we look for anomalies, things that are there 571 00:25:13,542 --> 00:25:14,959 that shouldn't be there. 572 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,417 {\an5}-Right. -Disturbed earth, stuff like that. 573 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,750 {\an5}SEGALA: We are all kind of apprehensive. 574 00:25:22,792 --> 00:25:24,792 GPR showed that there's something down there, 575 00:25:24,834 --> 00:25:26,583 {\an1}but what it is, we don't know. 576 00:25:26,625 --> 00:25:28,250 Is it possible that these strange objects 577 00:25:28,291 --> 00:25:30,875 that we're seeing is {\an1}the source of the radiation 578 00:25:30,917 --> 00:25:33,125 that caused the injury to Thomas? 579 00:25:33,166 --> 00:25:35,000 {\an1}Caused the injury to Travis? 580 00:25:35,041 --> 00:25:37,333 So, if we do find something that shows 581 00:25:37,375 --> 00:25:38,750 dangerous radiation levels, 582 00:25:38,792 --> 00:25:40,417 that's the end of this investigation. 583 00:25:40,458 --> 00:25:42,083 -TRAVIS: Anything? -CASEY: Nothing. 584 00:25:42,125 --> 00:25:45,125 Nothing. All right, let's go get the next one. 585 00:25:53,083 --> 00:25:55,208 TRAVIS: Are you getting something? 586 00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:56,917 -No. -Just normal background? 587 00:25:56,959 --> 00:25:58,750 -Yeah. {\an1}-All right. Well, let's bag it 588 00:25:58,792 --> 00:26:01,375 and let's move on to the next one. 589 00:26:01,417 --> 00:26:05,834 So, this next sample should be right there. 590 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,000 (metal grinding) 591 00:26:25,709 --> 00:26:27,834 {\an5}SEGALA: So, they're hitting something hard now. 592 00:26:27,875 --> 00:26:29,208 Man, they're on something. 593 00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:32,417 I hear a pinging sound. You hear that? 594 00:26:32,458 --> 00:26:34,959 SEGALA: Sound metallic? 595 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,125 JEREMY: We're right now at 596 00:26:37,166 --> 00:26:38,792 about 17. 597 00:26:38,834 --> 00:26:40,041 {\an1}This is at the right depth. 598 00:26:41,834 --> 00:26:44,125 {\an1}That whole thing's shaking. 599 00:26:55,875 --> 00:26:58,000 {\an8}So, they're hitting {\an8}something hard now. 600 00:26:58,041 --> 00:26:59,625 {\an8}Man, they're on something. 601 00:26:59,667 --> 00:27:03,583 {\an8}As we move closer {\an8}to the, uh, GPR anomaly, 602 00:27:03,625 --> 00:27:05,875 {\an8}the core drilling bit {\an8}is hitting something, 603 00:27:05,917 --> 00:27:07,417 {\an7}and it's chattering like crazy, 604 00:27:07,458 --> 00:27:09,583 {\an8}like it's hitting {\an8}something really hard. 605 00:27:09,625 --> 00:27:11,208 I hear a pinging sound. You hear that? 606 00:27:11,250 --> 00:27:13,000 SEGALA: Sound metallic? 607 00:27:13,041 --> 00:27:15,166 {\an1}That whole thing's shaking. 608 00:27:16,166 --> 00:27:17,750 What is our depth? 609 00:27:17,792 --> 00:27:19,542 {\an1}We're right now at about 17. 610 00:27:19,583 --> 00:27:21,583 I think that's right in the range 611 00:27:21,625 --> 00:27:22,792 {\an1}where we were getting that ping. 612 00:27:22,834 --> 00:27:24,375 {\an1}Yeah, I think you're right. 613 00:27:28,834 --> 00:27:30,291 {\an8}It's just too hard. 614 00:27:30,333 --> 00:27:32,417 {\an8}We're not going anywhere. 615 00:27:32,458 --> 00:27:34,417 {\an8}JEREMY: {\an8}W-We can't go any deeper. 616 00:27:34,458 --> 00:27:36,834 {\an8}The drill rig's done. {\an8}We're gonna break a bit, 617 00:27:36,875 --> 00:27:40,333 {\an7}shear a pin, do something bad, {\an8}do some damage. 618 00:27:40,375 --> 00:27:42,500 TRAVIS: Can we look at the bit 619 00:27:42,542 --> 00:27:44,333 when you pull it up, and maybe see 620 00:27:44,375 --> 00:27:45,542 if there's anything on the end of it 621 00:27:45,583 --> 00:27:46,959 -that-that makes sense. -Sure. 622 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,625 TRAVIS: The fact that the drill bit 623 00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:50,792 is hitting something that can't be penetrated 624 00:27:50,834 --> 00:27:53,709 has gotten us all excited {\an1}but also a little bit nervous. 625 00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:56,375 {\an1}I mean, hey, what if some of {\an1}the rumors I've heard are true, 626 00:27:56,417 --> 00:27:59,667 {\an1}and there really is some kind of {\an1}alien object underneath there? 627 00:27:59,709 --> 00:28:02,875 -What do you got? {\an1}-That was in the middle of it. 628 00:28:02,917 --> 00:28:05,291 Okay, check that, check that with the meter, 629 00:28:05,333 --> 00:28:07,583 {\an1}make sure it's not radioactive or anything. 630 00:28:07,625 --> 00:28:10,375 -Got nothing. {\an1}-SEGALA: So, this is siltstone. 631 00:28:10,417 --> 00:28:12,375 {\an5}JEREMY: Siltstone is just a type of bedrock 632 00:28:12,417 --> 00:28:13,959 that we have around here. 633 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,125 It's made of silt rather than sand. 634 00:28:16,166 --> 00:28:19,208 {\an8}But this doesn't seem {\an8}like it adds up 635 00:28:19,250 --> 00:28:20,917 {\an8}to what we were thinking, {\an8}possibly. 636 00:28:20,959 --> 00:28:22,291 I mean, so... 637 00:28:22,333 --> 00:28:23,792 {\an1}But it doesn't look sinister. 638 00:28:23,834 --> 00:28:25,208 No, it doesn't look... 639 00:28:25,250 --> 00:28:27,208 SEGALA: Or man-made. 640 00:28:27,250 --> 00:28:29,625 All right, so I would say we move on. 641 00:28:29,667 --> 00:28:31,667 -SEGALA: Move on. -BRYANT: Yeah, I think so. 642 00:28:31,709 --> 00:28:34,542 {\an5}TRAVIS: I think somewhere right in front of the homestead. 643 00:28:34,583 --> 00:28:36,583 {\an1}This is the one that makes me a little bit nervous, 644 00:28:36,625 --> 00:28:38,041 {\an1}just because of the history 645 00:28:38,083 --> 00:28:40,375 of what has happened at the old homestead, 646 00:28:40,417 --> 00:28:43,750 what happened with you and other people. 647 00:28:43,792 --> 00:28:45,500 {\an1}You know, I want to cautiously 648 00:28:45,542 --> 00:28:46,709 keep an eye on this one for sure. 649 00:28:46,750 --> 00:28:48,208 TRAVIS: Oh, I-I agree. 650 00:28:48,250 --> 00:28:50,000 One of y'all just get on one end of this table 651 00:28:50,041 --> 00:28:51,667 and we'll just walk with this thing. 652 00:28:51,709 --> 00:28:53,917 Even though we didn't find anything 653 00:28:53,959 --> 00:28:55,375 at our first drill site, 654 00:28:55,417 --> 00:28:56,667 we're gonna move to another place, 655 00:28:56,709 --> 00:28:58,625 {\an1}right in front of Homestead Two. 656 00:28:58,667 --> 00:29:01,709 BRYANT: A little more. All right. 657 00:29:01,750 --> 00:29:03,750 About there is good. Thank you, man. 658 00:29:03,792 --> 00:29:06,792 {\an1}At least the trees cooperated. 659 00:29:06,834 --> 00:29:08,834 SEGALA: This is the one that, 660 00:29:08,875 --> 00:29:13,000 {\an1}if we find radiation gradients or increases of radiation, 661 00:29:13,041 --> 00:29:15,166 {\an5}-this is where it's gonna happen. -Agreed. 662 00:29:15,208 --> 00:29:18,500 {\an1}We all know there's been a lot {\an1}of injuries on Skinwalker Ranch 663 00:29:18,542 --> 00:29:22,291 {\an1}based upon what we perceived to be ionizing radiation. 664 00:29:22,333 --> 00:29:24,917 {\an1}We call that "gamma radiation" for a short term. 665 00:29:24,959 --> 00:29:28,417 {\an1}Right over there is where my, uh, dosimeter went off 666 00:29:28,458 --> 00:29:30,750 {\an1}and I got exposed to radiation. 667 00:29:30,792 --> 00:29:33,375 So, we were looking to see if we can measure 668 00:29:33,417 --> 00:29:36,834 {\an1}ionizing or gamma radiation in the soil, 669 00:29:36,875 --> 00:29:39,500 {\an1}which would then give us some {\an1}information to go back and say 670 00:29:39,542 --> 00:29:41,417 why these people are getting hurt. 671 00:29:41,458 --> 00:29:43,917 Well, maybe this will be "X" marks the spot. 672 00:29:43,959 --> 00:29:46,083 That's where I put the "X" on the GPR 673 00:29:46,125 --> 00:29:47,458 and said that's where we should dig. 674 00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:48,917 BRYANT: Look at that. 675 00:29:48,959 --> 00:29:51,917 {\an1}The whole power line's wobbling. 676 00:29:51,959 --> 00:29:54,125 SEGALA: {\an1}Why is that rocking like that? 677 00:29:54,166 --> 00:29:55,875 (electrical discharge) 678 00:29:55,917 --> 00:29:57,667 TRAVIS: The wire's going nuts. 679 00:29:57,709 --> 00:29:59,417 It was violent. 680 00:29:59,458 --> 00:30:00,875 {\an5}-Look, there-- all the way down there. -Look, it's... 681 00:30:00,917 --> 00:30:03,166 -TRAVIS: Oh! -ERIK: Holy sh... 682 00:30:03,208 --> 00:30:04,625 Yeah. 683 00:30:04,667 --> 00:30:06,458 It's crazy. 684 00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:10,792 Just then, something made {\an1}the utility pole nearby shake, 685 00:30:10,834 --> 00:30:12,500 like we were having an earthquake. 686 00:30:13,834 --> 00:30:16,041 SEGALA: {\an1}Somebody messing with that wire? 687 00:30:16,083 --> 00:30:17,875 {\an1}-TRAVIS: Who would be there? -I don't know! 688 00:30:19,375 --> 00:30:21,291 SEGALA: They stopped shaking. 689 00:30:22,542 --> 00:30:24,000 That is really weird. 690 00:30:24,041 --> 00:30:25,667 That's crazy. 691 00:30:25,709 --> 00:30:28,709 That was strange. I mean, 692 00:30:28,750 --> 00:30:30,333 {\an1}maybe Tom and Dragon were right. 693 00:30:30,375 --> 00:30:33,417 Maybe we shouldn't have drilled here on the ranch. 694 00:30:36,208 --> 00:30:38,000 {\an5}BRYANT: Just for one other safety measure, 695 00:30:38,041 --> 00:30:40,166 I'm gonna walk with Erik, we'll go in there, 696 00:30:40,208 --> 00:30:42,667 see if this thing goes off or else... 697 00:30:42,709 --> 00:30:46,542 {\an5}- And you've got {\an5}the Geiger counter, right? {\an1}- I mean, I don't love being {\an1}a human radiation detector, 698 00:30:46,583 --> 00:30:49,291 {\an1}but I'd rather us pick it up {\an1}before we get any further along. 699 00:30:49,333 --> 00:30:52,166 {\an4}-Just get out quick if it... -ERIK: I want to go to the exact same spot 700 00:30:52,208 --> 00:30:53,709 where you experienced what you did. 701 00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:55,041 {\an5}-It was at the corner over there, right? -I know, I know. 702 00:30:55,083 --> 00:30:56,583 {\an5}-All right. -Let us know what you find, guys. 703 00:30:56,625 --> 00:30:58,083 -Okay. -Will do. 704 00:30:58,125 --> 00:31:00,875 TRAVIS: I think what we're finding 705 00:31:00,917 --> 00:31:05,917 {\an5}is that there isn't {\an5}a radioactive source underneath us that's permanent, anyway. 706 00:31:05,959 --> 00:31:07,125 - Yep. 707 00:31:08,875 --> 00:31:11,291 {\an1}- That just looks like fill dirt. 708 00:31:11,333 --> 00:31:14,125 I mean, that's just mud, is all that is. 709 00:31:14,166 --> 00:31:16,875 {\an1}That's like, that's like it has just been put there 710 00:31:16,917 --> 00:31:19,542 not long ago because they were making a road. 711 00:31:19,583 --> 00:31:22,375 {\an4}- So, I guess our premise is {\an1}that if anything that we're doing 712 00:31:22,417 --> 00:31:25,792 {\an1}out there on the road stirs up {\an1}activity, we'll see it on one 713 00:31:25,834 --> 00:31:28,000 -or more of these devices. -Yeah. 714 00:31:28,041 --> 00:31:32,208 Right now it looks like {\an1}it's just that typical range. 715 00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:37,375 {\an1}Listen to that bit chatter. 716 00:31:37,417 --> 00:31:39,125 There it is. 717 00:31:40,750 --> 00:31:43,208 {\an1}Boy, that thing sounds like {\an1}it's hitting something hard. 718 00:31:43,250 --> 00:31:45,667 Yeah, what the heck is it? 719 00:31:45,709 --> 00:31:48,542 {\an5}BRYANT: Should we go out {\an5}and look at that, {\an1}or do you want to poke around here a little bit more? 720 00:31:48,583 --> 00:31:50,583 Maybe we head over and take a peek. 721 00:31:50,625 --> 00:31:52,875 Yeah, let's go see. 722 00:31:52,917 --> 00:31:55,875 {\an1}Boy, that thing is not moving. 723 00:31:55,917 --> 00:31:57,583 (metal grinding) 724 00:31:57,625 --> 00:31:59,041 MAN: Yeah. 725 00:32:05,083 --> 00:32:06,959 (overlapping chatter) 726 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,709 That thing's sounding like it's working way harder. 727 00:32:08,750 --> 00:32:10,583 Yeah. We hit a hard layer. It was soft, 728 00:32:10,625 --> 00:32:12,125 {\an1}and then, all of a sudden, boom. 729 00:32:12,166 --> 00:32:14,959 Yeah, there's some kind of natural layer, I think, 730 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,875 {\an1}that's about this thick or so. 731 00:32:16,917 --> 00:32:19,583 That's what we were seeing in the GPR. 732 00:32:19,625 --> 00:32:22,125 Ooh, wow. Look at that. 733 00:32:22,166 --> 00:32:23,166 Oh. 734 00:32:25,959 --> 00:32:27,875 {\an1}I don't see anything crazy. 735 00:32:27,917 --> 00:32:29,291 Just more dirt. 736 00:32:29,333 --> 00:32:32,333 {\an1}We're at 29 feet, and that's just kind of normal dirt 737 00:32:32,375 --> 00:32:33,583 at this point. 738 00:32:33,625 --> 00:32:35,667 Normal clay, whatever you call that. 739 00:32:38,583 --> 00:32:40,166 {\an1}-I got a big question for you. -Mm-hmm 740 00:32:40,208 --> 00:32:42,166 What do you think about digging on the ranch now? 741 00:32:42,208 --> 00:32:44,792 It's kind of a complicated answer from my standpoint. 742 00:32:44,834 --> 00:32:47,583 {\an1}I'm happy-- the fact that we {\an1}didn't pick up any radiation 743 00:32:47,625 --> 00:32:50,709 {\an1}or any dangerous things, based on the equipment we have 744 00:32:50,750 --> 00:32:51,875 coming out of the ground. 745 00:32:51,917 --> 00:32:56,583 {\an1}But if you look at the lore, 746 00:32:56,625 --> 00:33:00,375 {\an1}or the stories passed down, or the reports, 747 00:33:00,417 --> 00:33:02,125 stuff doesn't always happen immediately 748 00:33:02,166 --> 00:33:03,250 when you dig on the ranch. 749 00:33:03,291 --> 00:33:04,709 It can take time. 750 00:33:04,750 --> 00:33:07,000 Just because we didn't find anything today 751 00:33:07,041 --> 00:33:09,375 with the drilling process, 752 00:33:09,417 --> 00:33:11,834 that doesn't mean that things aren't gonna happen 753 00:33:11,875 --> 00:33:13,834 {\an1}as a result of us drilling. 754 00:33:13,875 --> 00:33:15,792 I hear you. 755 00:33:15,834 --> 00:33:18,083 {\an1}I... and I agree it doesn't give us carte blanche 756 00:33:18,125 --> 00:33:19,917 {\an1}to just go digging willy-nilly. 757 00:33:19,959 --> 00:33:23,583 But maybe it's gonna help us say, 758 00:33:23,625 --> 00:33:25,959 "Look, digging may not necessarily be 759 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,709 {\an1}such a heebie-jeebie thing {\an1}that, that people think it is." 760 00:33:40,166 --> 00:33:42,166 {\an8}(computers beeping) 761 00:33:45,834 --> 00:33:48,250 (alpacas screaming) 762 00:33:55,625 --> 00:33:57,625 {\an8}♪ 763 00:34:03,041 --> 00:34:04,625 - Dr. Duncan? - How are you today? 764 00:34:04,667 --> 00:34:07,125 - Been better, but, uh, I think you're here 765 00:34:07,166 --> 00:34:08,542 {\an1}to help out with that, right? 766 00:34:08,583 --> 00:34:10,291 {\an8}Well, hopefully. 767 00:34:10,333 --> 00:34:11,542 {\an8}He's, uh, right over here. 768 00:34:11,583 --> 00:34:13,250 {\an7}So, has he been down ever since, {\an8}or has he...? 769 00:34:13,291 --> 00:34:14,875 {\an8}No, he's-he's been {\an8}up and around. 770 00:34:14,917 --> 00:34:18,125 He was down a lot at the beginning. 771 00:34:18,166 --> 00:34:20,583 {\an8}I woke up this morning {\an8}to this screaming sound 772 00:34:20,625 --> 00:34:22,291 {\an7}that I wasn't familiar with. 773 00:34:22,333 --> 00:34:26,917 {\an8}The alpacas were under {\an8}some sort of distress. 774 00:34:28,834 --> 00:34:33,125 Came to find out one of 'em was under attack. 775 00:34:33,166 --> 00:34:35,125 {\an5}DUNCAN: Well, let's see if we can get ahold of him. 776 00:34:35,166 --> 00:34:38,166 {\an5}TOM: The alpacas were {\an1}in a great degree of distress, 777 00:34:38,208 --> 00:34:42,750 {\an1}based on this screaming sound {\an1}that we hadn't heard before. 778 00:34:42,792 --> 00:34:47,250 I run into the pen, and this pack of animals is 779 00:34:47,291 --> 00:34:48,375 {\an1}just chomping on this alpaca. 780 00:34:48,417 --> 00:34:50,333 You're all right. 781 00:34:50,375 --> 00:34:53,166 {\an5}KANDUS: They looked like dogs, but they varied in size. 782 00:34:53,208 --> 00:34:57,375 {\an7}Like a whole group of something {\an8}eating him alive. 783 00:34:57,417 --> 00:34:58,834 {\an8}Like, that's what {\an8}it looked like. 784 00:34:58,875 --> 00:35:01,208 {\an1}There were a group of animals just eating him. 785 00:35:01,250 --> 00:35:03,291 DUNCAN: It looks bad. 786 00:35:03,333 --> 00:35:05,959 {\an5}TOM: And there was one animal in particular 787 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,125 that did not move off the alpaca 788 00:35:08,166 --> 00:35:10,375 when I ran into the corral. 789 00:35:10,417 --> 00:35:12,583 {\an1}It took me picking up a stick and chucking it at him 790 00:35:12,625 --> 00:35:14,834 to even get him out of the corral. 791 00:35:14,875 --> 00:35:16,875 Very aggressive. Very aggressive animal. 792 00:35:16,917 --> 00:35:20,250 (buzzing) 793 00:35:20,291 --> 00:35:22,250 KANDUS: So, will you cauterize the wound? 794 00:35:22,291 --> 00:35:25,667 {\an5}- No. I'm gonna try to suture some of it. 795 00:35:25,709 --> 00:35:28,000 KANDUS: I'm just glad he's alive. 796 00:35:28,041 --> 00:35:31,500 I didn't know what you were gonna find. 797 00:35:31,542 --> 00:35:32,542 Yeah. 798 00:35:35,417 --> 00:35:37,417 {\an8}So, Dr. Duncan, {\an8}are you from here? 799 00:35:37,709 --> 00:35:38,750 {\an1}- I've been here forty years. 800 00:35:38,792 --> 00:35:41,000 - Okay. Yeah. - I wasn't raised here. 801 00:35:41,041 --> 00:35:43,041 - Are you familiar with this property? 802 00:35:43,333 --> 00:35:45,208 - Well, in the past... 803 00:35:45,250 --> 00:35:48,917 {\an5}...I knew the Shermans. - Okay. They had some {\an1}crazy things that happened. 804 00:35:48,959 --> 00:35:52,333 - Yeah. {\an1}Strange things were going on. 805 00:35:52,375 --> 00:35:53,792 They finally decided to... 806 00:35:53,834 --> 00:35:55,250 ...get away from it... 807 00:35:55,291 --> 00:35:56,959 ...because they were a little scared. 808 00:35:58,875 --> 00:36:03,166 {\an5}TOM: {\an1}You know, they had some stories about big animals 809 00:36:03,208 --> 00:36:04,208 that they saw. 810 00:36:04,250 --> 00:36:05,625 {\an1}They didn't know what they were. 811 00:36:05,667 --> 00:36:09,208 {\an1}They had cattle mutilations. Seen any of those? 812 00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:11,291 - One mutilation that I do remember... 813 00:36:11,333 --> 00:36:12,500 ...there was a cow... 814 00:36:12,542 --> 00:36:13,792 {\an1}...that had the tail missing. 815 00:36:15,417 --> 00:36:16,458 They found the tail... 816 00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:17,959 ...and it was out in the sagebrush. 817 00:36:19,417 --> 00:36:20,917 Couldn't tell if it'd been chewed off... 818 00:36:21,625 --> 00:36:23,667 ...or somebody cut it off. 819 00:36:26,834 --> 00:36:30,750 {\an5}BRANDON: The Sherman family bought {\an1}the property in the early '90s. 820 00:36:30,792 --> 00:36:34,500 {\an7}They experienced everything {\an8}from UFO sightings 821 00:36:34,542 --> 00:36:38,750 {\an8}to countless {\an8}cattle mutilations 822 00:36:38,792 --> 00:36:41,917 {\an7}of a very disturbing nature. 823 00:36:41,959 --> 00:36:43,333 They had beasts 824 00:36:43,375 --> 00:36:46,250 or entities {\an1}that could only be described as 825 00:36:46,291 --> 00:36:47,750 the skinwalkers of old. 826 00:36:47,792 --> 00:36:50,834 These giant, wolf-like creatures 827 00:36:50,875 --> 00:36:53,542 that would appear to them. 828 00:36:53,583 --> 00:36:55,166 They were terrorized. 829 00:36:55,208 --> 00:36:57,583 That's part of what motivated them 830 00:36:57,625 --> 00:36:59,458 to sell the property. 831 00:37:02,750 --> 00:37:04,959 {\an5}- Okay. So, I think that's all we're gonna suture. 832 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,000 - Okay. He's good to go? 833 00:37:07,041 --> 00:37:08,417 - Good to go. Go on. Let him go. 834 00:37:08,458 --> 00:37:10,250 - Okay. 835 00:37:10,291 --> 00:37:12,375 {\an1}Yeah, well, thank you so much for coming out. 836 00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:13,458 - You're welcome. 837 00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:17,125 {\an7}TRAVIS: Although we hoped that {\an7}the presence of the alpacas, 838 00:37:17,166 --> 00:37:18,458 {\an8}coupled with our digging, 839 00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:20,500 {\an8}might trigger {\an8}some strange phenomena, 840 00:37:20,542 --> 00:37:22,000 {\an8}we thought the pen {\an8}we had them in 841 00:37:22,041 --> 00:37:23,583 {\an7}would protect them from harm. 842 00:37:23,625 --> 00:37:26,625 {\an1}After what happened, we decided {\an1}to take them off the ranch 843 00:37:26,667 --> 00:37:28,291 {\an1}and move them to a safer place. 844 00:37:28,792 --> 00:37:29,917 - I think it's going to be okay. 845 00:37:29,959 --> 00:37:32,125 {\an1}-I'll take some of that for you. -Yeah. 846 00:37:32,166 --> 00:37:35,500 {\an5}TOM: {\an1}And, uh, the attack might even be on video here. 847 00:37:35,542 --> 00:37:37,917 KALEB: {\an1}I bet we might have something. 848 00:37:37,959 --> 00:37:41,125 {\an5}You know, it might be {\an4}a good idea for you guys just to go follow up. -Yeah. 849 00:37:41,166 --> 00:37:42,875 We got to do everything we can do to prevent 850 00:37:42,917 --> 00:37:45,041 anything like this from happening again. 851 00:37:53,333 --> 00:37:55,166 {\an8}TOM: {\an7}You know, the only thing I can 852 00:37:55,208 --> 00:37:57,166 {\an7}put my mind to is it's a dog, 853 00:37:57,208 --> 00:37:59,917 {\an8}-but it's a big dog. {\an8}-No. 854 00:37:59,959 --> 00:38:03,125 {\an8}I think you could see {\an7}the way he moved and the color. 855 00:38:03,166 --> 00:38:05,750 {\an8}Yeah, it's hard to say {\an8}exactly what, 856 00:38:05,792 --> 00:38:08,667 {\an8}you know, bit them. 857 00:38:08,709 --> 00:38:10,250 {\an8}It was wretched. 858 00:38:11,875 --> 00:38:13,959 {\an5}ERIK: We were just watching some footage. 859 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,083 Obviously, there's nothing going on. 860 00:38:16,125 --> 00:38:18,250 {\an4}-These guys are just chilling. -BRYANT: They're fine. Just hanging out. 861 00:38:18,291 --> 00:38:20,792 {\an1}Well, the unfortunate thing is, this camera 862 00:38:20,834 --> 00:38:24,125 {\an1}went down not too long after {\an1}what we're looking at right now. 863 00:38:24,166 --> 00:38:25,709 -Oh, really? -Yeah. 864 00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:27,875 {\an1}Are there any other cameras that {\an1}might have picked up anything? 865 00:38:27,917 --> 00:38:29,583 Um, yes. 866 00:38:29,625 --> 00:38:33,166 {\an1}We have the camera that was on Travis's trailer 867 00:38:33,208 --> 00:38:35,333 {\an1}looking back towards the corral. 868 00:38:35,375 --> 00:38:38,583 -Okay. -Let me bring this up. 869 00:38:38,625 --> 00:38:41,083 (alpacas screaming) 870 00:38:41,125 --> 00:38:45,125 Oh, God. 871 00:38:45,166 --> 00:38:47,291 {\an5}ERIK: {\an1}So they're already under attack. {\an1}We see them running around. 872 00:38:47,333 --> 00:38:51,250 {\an5}-TOM: Yeah. -ERIK: Unfortunately, {\an1}we don't have a great view. 873 00:38:51,291 --> 00:38:53,583 {\an5}TOM: {\an1}Okay, so you can see something in that pen. 874 00:38:53,625 --> 00:38:55,792 {\an4}-Yeah, there is something... -What is that? -Oh, yeah. 875 00:38:55,834 --> 00:38:57,709 {\an5}-But that thing is in between them. {\an1}-That is a big animal in there. 876 00:38:57,750 --> 00:38:58,750 -Yeah. -Okay. 877 00:38:59,792 --> 00:39:01,875 {\an1}Oh, gosh, it's chasing them in circles. 878 00:39:01,917 --> 00:39:03,917 KANDUS: Okay, so what, um... 879 00:39:03,959 --> 00:39:06,792 {\an5}TOM: Something is in there chasing and grabbing... 880 00:39:08,583 --> 00:39:14,333 {\an5}-Can we see that again? {\an5}-Maybe they showed up-- I don't... - Yeah. 881 00:39:14,375 --> 00:39:17,250 Oh, there. Right there, that's... 882 00:39:17,291 --> 00:39:18,583 {\an1}-When the first bite happened. -Yeah. 883 00:39:18,625 --> 00:39:20,875 Let's take a look again. 884 00:39:27,417 --> 00:39:29,834 So, this is an animal that doesn't hesitate 885 00:39:29,875 --> 00:39:32,458 to attack not one but two animals 886 00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:35,959 {\an5}that are as much as maybe 185, 200 pounds. - Yeah. 887 00:39:37,709 --> 00:39:40,125 {\an1}Watch the footage up there, 888 00:39:40,166 --> 00:39:43,458 {\an1}and you can almost see something {\an1}grabbing onto it right about... 889 00:39:45,542 --> 00:39:47,291 TOM: Oh, right there. Yeah. 890 00:39:47,333 --> 00:39:50,250 {\an5}BRYANT: That's when you really see whatever that is pounce. 891 00:39:50,291 --> 00:39:53,083 {\an5}ERIK: I want to back this up {\an1}and review it again carefully. 892 00:39:56,250 --> 00:39:57,583 -TOM: Yeah. -KANDUS: Oh... 893 00:39:57,625 --> 00:39:59,500 TOM: Oh, right there. Oh. 894 00:39:59,542 --> 00:40:01,458 (indistinct chatter) 895 00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:04,333 You know what's crazy about that is, 896 00:40:04,375 --> 00:40:07,959 {\an1}you would think if it was just normal animals, 897 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,458 {\an4}-you'd come running out and, you know, they'd scatter. -Yeah. 898 00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:13,208 I'm really glad that, 899 00:40:13,250 --> 00:40:15,125 whatever it was, it didn't turn on you guys. 900 00:40:17,458 --> 00:40:19,500 {\an5}BRYANT: Could have been much, much worse. 901 00:40:19,542 --> 00:40:21,125 KANDUS: Yeah. Absolutely. 902 00:40:21,166 --> 00:40:25,166 {\an5}TOM: {\an1}I felt a lot of responsibility for these alpacas. 903 00:40:25,208 --> 00:40:27,792 I like to learn from my mistakes, and so 904 00:40:27,834 --> 00:40:31,208 we're going to move them {\an1}to a much more secure location 905 00:40:31,250 --> 00:40:35,583 {\an1}and prevent anything like this from happening again. 906 00:40:35,625 --> 00:40:40,250 {\an5}ERIK: This is something that {\an1}we can monitor, we can data-log 907 00:40:40,291 --> 00:40:43,083 and be on the lookout for suspicious activity 908 00:40:43,125 --> 00:40:46,875 as, perhaps, more of {\an1}our animals may be subjected 909 00:40:46,917 --> 00:40:49,250 to whatever it was. 910 00:40:49,291 --> 00:40:52,458 {\an5}KANDUS: It was horrible to hear those alpacas screaming 911 00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:54,333 and know who was in trouble 912 00:40:54,375 --> 00:40:56,875 but not know what was causing the harm. 913 00:40:56,917 --> 00:40:59,500 I don't know what was in that pen with them. 914 00:40:59,542 --> 00:41:02,041 I just know something was, and it was bad. 915 00:41:02,083 --> 00:41:06,709 {\an1}BRANDON: With all of its beauty and stunning landscapes, 916 00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:09,542 {\an7}Skinwalker Ranch, at its heart, 917 00:41:09,583 --> 00:41:13,208 {\an8}is truly a mysterious, {\an8}haunting place. 918 00:41:13,250 --> 00:41:17,208 {\an8}And I don't believe it's {\an8}a coincidence that we see 919 00:41:17,250 --> 00:41:20,792 {\an8}such disturbing events {\an8}happening on this property. 920 00:41:20,834 --> 00:41:22,208 {\an8}What is at work? 921 00:41:22,250 --> 00:41:24,250 {\an8}I want to get to the bottom {\an8}of that. 922 00:41:30,750 --> 00:41:32,375 THOMAS: {\an1}There's a helicopter coming in. 923 00:41:32,417 --> 00:41:33,667 That dude's hovering right there. 924 00:41:33,709 --> 00:41:36,208 {\an1}I think somebody's watching us right now. 925 00:41:36,250 --> 00:41:38,417 There's something going on out here. 926 00:41:38,458 --> 00:41:40,500 What in the world? It's just dead. 927 00:41:40,542 --> 00:41:42,834 -Get that over there. -The meter's going nuts. 928 00:41:42,875 --> 00:41:44,083 {\an7}All the frequencies are excited. 929 00:41:44,125 --> 00:41:46,333 {\an8}TRAVIS: {\an8}Mankind doesn't know {\an8}how to do that. 930 00:41:46,375 --> 00:41:48,375 {\an1}- We're dealing with something that doesn't want us 931 00:41:48,417 --> 00:41:49,959 to understand. 932 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,083 - There's something happening here. 933 00:41:51,125 --> 00:41:53,375 BRANDON: The cow reacted 934 00:41:53,417 --> 00:41:56,000 the moment that that object appeared.